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General Brock (Schooner), aground, 1 Nov 1816

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Archibald Thompson Jr., on board schooner General Brock, to Col. Nichols, Port Dover, Dec. 2, 1816:
      "am Sorry to Inform you that I have got on the Bar off Long Point, and that I must beg your assistance to get of (sic) again, in the first place I must beg you will Send me a Boat or two for to light me of (sic) in the next place I wish to Inform you that I am Lading with Indian goods for the Upper Country and that Mr. Rapp the Conductor of the Indian presents is along and that he says he will give and Dollar for Every package they will take of (sic)
therefore I beg you will send me a Boat as soon as possible as the Vessel makes a great Quantity of water and that I am fearful they will be much Damaged I also hope you will send me one Barrell flower (sic) and Some meat or we probably will all famish before we may have calm weather to get the Vessel afloat, I allso have wrote to Mr. Ross (sp?) to send me some provisions and a boat which I hope and trust between the goodness of you two gentlemen to soon get my Vessel afloat and I ever shall esteeme it a peculiar favour and make you every Restitution for your Kindness.
      National Archives, Ottawa
      P.A.C., RG 10, Vol. 33, pp. 19509-510.

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Col. Nichol to Col. Wm. Claus, Indian Dept., York, Woodhouse, 9 AM, Dec. 7, 1816:

      "It was only yesterday that I heard of your being at Ancaster or I think I would have made a ... to have seen you. however you must have been gone before I heard of your being there.
      My principal reason for writing this is to say that the Schooner GENERAL BROCK principally laden with Indian Goods is on Shore on Long Point & I fear great part of the Cargo will be damaged or lost - I am Collecting all the Boats & other assistance I can to go out & help them. I shall inform you on my return of the State of affairs."
      National Archives, Ottawa
      P.A.C., RG 10, Vol. 33, pp. 19512-513.

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      Schooner General Brock
Elias Foster, Walsingham, to James Kerby, Queenston, 29 Nov., 1817:
      "Agreeable to your request when you was at my place Last September (sp?) I now write to you ... ... of what has come to my knowledge respecting the goods Lost out of Brock on the 21 of September last a man come to my Neighbour John Fick said to have been driven across the Lake in a Canoe and has kept very close for four days in this time said Ficks family was bringing goods from Long Point the Evening of this man was gone my Son went to Ficks
and Saw two Blankets Lying on the floor and Fick and Son was gone after another load on Sunday Evening his Son came to my house and taking two handkerchiefs out of his pocket and Said he has picked them up on the point it immediately gave me a Suspicion there was some underhanded dealing as the handkerchiefs appeared fresh as if they Never been wet I then asked him Some questions respecting them goods, he very honestly told me there was a box that Contained Some part of these as he had as yet got his ... I then Sent my Son down to the End of the point to See if he make any discovery of the box but he could not find it but found some few articles which he advertised the next day, but a few days after Stephen Burger and John Beker accidentally found the box where it had been broken open I Examined Burger and he tells me the box was 200 yards from the lake Shore where the water Never flows and he says it appears to him as if had been (sic) Secreted in that place as water Could Never have carried it there Since there has many appeared Such as Blankets .. callico blue cloth fringed Cloaks 2 pieces of Silk has as I been informed been offered to Daniel Pross for Sale Since Said Ficks Daughter has made herself a Silk gown my Daughter was talking with Fick about these good and asked if he thought these goods came out of the Brock, his answer he made me Doubt they were Kirbys goods it goods (sic) to me the greater part of the property is ment to be Concealed from Circumstances I dont think one for the part of the property has Ever been discovered to any person but Ficks own family I have Nothing more at present to write you at present
NB if you want to get any further information keep this a secret and call on me at any place in this town and I will give you Such information as will Enable you to make further discovery."

P.A.C., RG 10, Vol. 34, pp. 20189-192.

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      General Brock, schooner

James Kerby, Queenston, to Col. Wm. Claus, 23 Dec., 1817:
      "May I beg leave to enclose a letter which may be of consequence to you As it contains information relative to some Indian Goods that have been picked up from the Schooner Brock, Long Point. And which upon further investigation may tend to lead to discovery of Some more of the Goods Secreted.
I am well aware that Foster's information is well founded."

P.A.C., RG 10, Vol. 34, p. 2O188.

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      General Brock, schooner

George Rapp to Col. Win. Claus, Indian Dept., York, 19 Jan., 1817:
      "... Two days after my arrival from York Lieut. Kent sent one of his boats at the place where the Brock was Cast away to try if they Could get any thing but they returned from the point without any success after having made use of the graplings for two days. Mr. ... which was the officer that Commanded the party told me it was impossible to get any thing on account of the sand having washed over the place where the Vessel had laid aground & that he supposed the things was buried so deep in the sand that it was impossible for the graplings to have any Effect whatever.
I have secured the stores in the best manner I could in Cases such articles that I suppose might be destroyed or stolen by the sailors when shipping of them in the spring of the year
I take the liberty of acquainting you of my Departure for Amherstburg which is to be tomorrow morning.
      P. A. C., R. G. 10, Vol. 34, pp. 19626 -627.
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      General Brock, schooner
Benjamin Fairchild, Interpreter, Indian Dept., Fort George, to I. B. Clerick (sp?), Indian Dept., Jan. 10, 1818:
"1 have the honor to report that in obedience to the Command of the Dep. Supt. Genl. of Indian Affairs, communicated through you, that I proceed to Long Point for the purpose of identifying certain articles supposed to be Indian presents, & part of the Cargo shipped last Fall on Board the Schooner Brock, and that on my arrival at Long Point aforesaid I procured a Search Warrant from John Backhouse Esquire who accompanied me to search the Houses of certain Individuals whose names appear on the Inventory furnished by you for my guidance & on a strict examination found the following articles, which I verily believe to be Government presents
Blankets 1 Point No. 10
      Do 2 Do " 5 In the possession of John Finch
      Do 2½ Do " 3
Blankets 2½ Points No. 2
      Do 3 Do No. 2 In the possession of Edward Foster

Blankets 2½ Points No. 4
      Do 1 Do No. 2 In the possession of Peter Fick
Molton yards

Blankets of 3 Points No. 1
      Do 1 Do " 1 In the possession of Frederick Fick

Blankets of 2 Points No. 1
      Do 3 Do " 2 In the possession of Mrs. McMichael
      The above mentioned Articles have been conveyed to this place under my direction with the exception of those in the possession of Edward Foster who promised to forward the Articles to Mr. Backhouse, who has promised to forward the same to this place, in the course of the Winter.
In reply to that part of the order regarding the manner in which the before mentioned Articles came into the possession of the respecting persons whose names are herein mentioned, Vizt. John Finch, Edward Foster, Peter Fick, Frederick Pick, & Mrs. McMichael & on the best information to be obtained am of opinion that they picked up the Articles aforesaid along the Lake Shore near to where the Schooner Brock was wrecked."

P.A.C., RG 10, Vol. 34, pp. 20230-231.

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General Brock (Schooner), aground, 1 Nov 1816