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Upper Canada Herald (Kingston, ON), May 12, 1830


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p.3 a description of Kingston [Canadian Courant] note - this reprint does not include the description of the Rideau Canal contained in original.

We are informed that a Steam-boat lately built at Brownville, and intended to ply on the American side of Lake Ontario, was consumed by fire on Sunday last.

Steam Boat Competition - Competition in all branches of business is useful, and when conducted on fair and honourable principles, highly beneficial to the community - but on the other hand when it degenerates into oppression and low intrigue - the powerful taking an undue advantage of the weak, it becomes the bounden duty of the public to step forward and afford protection to the injured party.

I am led, Mr. Editor, to these remarks by some proceedings of our Bay Steam Boats during the present week, but as the particulars are pretty generally known, I shall abstain at present from further remarks, well knowing that there is sufficient of the John Bull spirit of fair-play in the community to counteract effectually, any ungenerous attempts of the character above alluded to. Hallowell [Chronicle]

To the Public - Steam Boat Competition: - I perfectly agree with Hallowell, in many of his remarks in respect to the competition of Steam Boats, and beg leave publicly to state the causes that led to the misunderstanding between our Bay Boats, which he alludes to. Shortly after Mr. McDonell had chartered the Steam Boat Toronto, for the present season, I had some conversation with him respecting the arrangement of our trips. We both expressed a wish to be on amicable terms. I proposed running on the same days that we did the last season; he did not like the days the Toronto ran the last season, and wished to change them; and put on a slip of paper the days on which he wished her to run; I consented to it, and to continue our days as usual, although I did not think it so good an arrangement for the accommodation of the public, as we had the last season, but was led to suppose the change he proposed was determined on. Shortly after I saw Mr. McDonell again, who informed me he wished to make another change, and named the days on which he would run. I objected to them strongly, and observed that if he changed to the days he last named we should be under the necessity of changing ours. I afterwards spoke to Capt. Sinclair on the subjects, who observed that he did not know that the days of running were to be altered from last season, nor could I believe that Mr. McDonell would persist in running on the days he last named. Previous to the commencement of our running, I called a meeting of the Committee of management for the Steam Boat Sir James, and stated to them the cause of my calling it. It was decided by the Committee that the Sir James should commence her trips as usual, and continue them so through the season, unless she were interfered with, in which case I must act as I thought proper; which I declined, and insisted

on having positive orders, which I received, and have thus far acted agreeably to them. Permit me now briefly to state the days on which the two boats ran, from the time the Toronto commenced, until the last week. The Sir James left Kingston for the C. Place on Monday, the C. Place for Kingston on Tuesday, Kingston for Prescott on Wednesday, Prescott for Kingston on Thursday, Kingston for C. Place on Friday, and the C. Place for Kingston on Saturday. The Toronto left the C. Place for Kingston on Monday, Kingston for Prescott on Tuesday, Prescott for Kingston on Wednesday, Kingston for C. Place on Thursday, C. Place for Kingston on Friday, and Kingston for C. Place on Saturday. These were the days I objected to. Now I would ask, do these days accommodate the public? and do they not give the Toronto a decided advantage? For instance, people in Kingston having business at the head of the Bay, take the Sir James Monday morning, and arrive in the C. Place at the evening, the boat leaves on Tuesday morning at 5 o'clock. If they can transact their business in the night, and return by the same boat, all is well; if not, they must wait until Friday, as there is no boat from Tuesday morning until Friday morning. Again, people in the bay, having business in Kingston on Monday that requires to be done in business hours, or that requires 5 or 6 hours time, take passage in the Sir James down on Saturday, they cannot do their business on Monday morning before the Sir James leaves, and must remain in Kingston until Thursday. Passengers that come down-by the Toronto on Monday, must also remain until Thursday, and also those that come in the Sir James on Tuesday must remain until Thursday. The Toronto goes up on Thursday, consequently all the passengers that have been brought to Kingston for the space of five days (except those who might make it convenient to take the Sir James on Monday) take passage in the Toronto on Thursday. Who or what can be left for the Sir James that follows on Friday, the day after? In respect to our River Trips, our principal dependence is in the freight of goods for the Bay of Quintie, as the goods are shipped on board the Bay Boats. The Toronto leaves Prescott on Wednesday, the Sir James on Thursday; consequently all the goods that have arrived for the Bay, in the space of six days, in the week are shipped on board the Toronto on Wednesday, as it is customary for the forwarders to ship by the first boats. Now I would ask what would be left for the Sir James that follows on Thursday, the day after? or what merchant would wish to have his goods detained at Prescott or Brockville, six days? It may be said that Mr. McDonell has offered to take our days and we his. I would ask is it a good arrangement, and one that accommodates the public? and would a change of days make any difference in respect to accommodation? if not, in duty to the public, my employers and myself, should I accept? - when we accommodate the public, we benefit ourselves.

I am well aware that much pains have been taken to excite a general feeling against me by base and false reports. As to the article that appeared in the last Chronicle, signed Hallowell, to which I have already alluded, I have only to remind the author, that before he commits to the columns of a respectable public journal, insinuations against the character of a man, he ought first to learn, and be well assured, that his conduct is censurable. - He may rob me of that power which he alludes to, and still leave me rich and powerful, but when he takes from me my good name, he makes me poor and helpless.

HENRY GILDERSLIEVE.

For the Upper Canada Herald.

The attempts lately made to excite a prejudice against Capt. Gilderslieve, Master of the Steam Boat Sir James Kempt by false reports and insinuations that he has expressed or formed a determination to "break down the Toronto, if it should cost a thousand pounds," etc., will surely have no lasting effect against him in the minds of those who have known him for so many years, and witnessed not merely his punctuality and fidelity to his owners and the public, but his candour, discretion integrity and truth as a man. When the facts respecting the Steam Boat competition, of this season, are fairly stated, it will be seen that he has acted fairly, explicitly and honourably, with a view to the accommodation of the public, for the interest of the proprietors of the valuable Boat entrusted to his charge, and agreeable to the orders of their committee of management. Spectator

CANADIAN LINE OF STEAMBOATS

On Lake Ontario.

The public are respectfully informed that the Steam Boats ALCIOPE, Capt. McKenzie, QUEENSTON, Capt. Whitney, and NIAGARA, Capt. Mosier, have commenced their regular trips, and will until the 2nd November, ply as follows:

From Niagara.

Every Tuesday morn. at 8 1/2 o'clock, The Alciope.

Every Thursday morn. at 8 1/2 o'clock, The Queenston.

Every Saturday morn. at 8 1/2 o'clock, The Niagara.

From Prescott.

Every Friday morning at 6 o'clock, The Alciope.

Every Sunday morning at 6 o'clock, The Queenston.

Every Wednesday morn. at 6 o'clock, The Niagara.

The Boats will as formerly call at Kingston and Brockville.

Arrangements have been made with Messrs. Norton & Co. by which Passengers will be enabled to proceed to Montreal without delay. The accommodations and fare are of the best description, and every endeavour will be used to ensure regularity.

Rate of Passage from Niagara to Prescott £2 10s. From Niagara to Kingston, £2.

Kingston, 1st May, 1830.

NEW LINE OF STEAM-BOATS.

From Carrying Place to Prescott, three times a week, and from Prescott to the Carrying Place.

The Toronto, Capt. Sinclair, and the Dalhousie, Capt. McDonell, will run during the season as follows; viz.:

THE TORONTO

will leave the Carrying Place for Kingston, every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday morning, at 5 o'clock, touching at the Trent, Bellville, Sophiasburgh, Hallowell, Adolphustown and Bath; and leave Kingston for the Carrying Place every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, at 8 o'clock in the morning, touching at the intermediate places.

THE DALHOUSIE

will leave Prescott every Monday and Wednesday morning, at 5 o'clock, and on every Friday afternoon on the arrival of the Montreal stage - touching at Brockville and Gananoque - and leave Kingston for Prescott every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday morning at 8 o'clock, touching at the intermediate places.

Mr. Weller will shortly run a line of Stages between York and the Carrying Place, three times a week, to meet the Toronto - thus forming an easy and expeditious route from York to Montreal, via the Bay of Quinte.

Rates of the Boats as usual - and the steward's department furnished with the best wines, liquors, etc.

Kingston, May 5th, 1830.


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May 12, 1830
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Upper Canada Herald (Kingston, ON), May 12, 1830