Maritime History of the Great Lakes

Marine Review (Cleveland, OH), January 1912, p. 17

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January, 1912 chusetts Institute of Boston, Mass. Robert L. Hogan, draftsman, Fore River S. B. Co., Quincy, Mass. Ralph T. Hanson, assistant naval constructor, U. S. N., navy yard, Bos- ton, Mass. Jerome C. Hunsaker, assistant naval constructor, WU, S.ONs navy yard, Bos- ston, Vass: F. Carlsen, student, Webb's Acad- emy, New York. G. A. Colley, student, Webb's Acad- emy, New York:. G. .A. Newton, draftsman; Whittel- sey & Whittelsey, 11 Broadway, New York. TUNIORS TO MEMBERS. Carl A. Bergstrom, leading drafts- man, Fore River S. B. Co., Quincy, Mass. Frederick A. Hunnewell, draftsman in charge, superintending constructor, New York Ship Building Co., Cam- den, N. J. Ambrose M. Merrill, draftsman, Hull division, navy yard, New York. A. Loring Swasey, president Swasey, Raymond & Page, Tnc., Colonial build- ing, Boston, Mass. | A. V. Curtis, draftsman, nayy yard, Washington, D. C. L. M. Thompson, draftsman, bureau of lighthouses, Washington, D. C. D.. Bailey, draftsman, navy. yard, New . York. Howard C.. Towle, man, New York Ship Building Co., Camden, N. J. Nathaniel A. White, draftsman in charge, estimating department, Hull division, navy yard, Philadelphia. - Ernest Fils, chief draftsman, Robins Dry Dock & Repair Co., Erie Basin, Brooklyn, N. Y. ; Eads Johnson, consulting engineer, 30 Church St. New York. TUNIOR TO ASSOCIATE, Frank H. Crane, president and man-- ager, Townsend & Moore Engineering Works, Erie Basin, Brooklyn, N. Y. Robert C. Simpson, draftsman, New London Ship & Engine Co., Groton, Conn. Constantine D. architect and engineer, St., San -Pedro, Cal. William J. J. Young, draftsman, superintending constructor's office, Fore River Ship Building Co., Quincy, Mass. Callahan, 1811 Center Model Basin Investigations Naval Constructor David W. Tay- lor's paper entitled "Some Model Basin Investigations of the Influence of Form of Ships Upon Their Re- sistance," was read by title only, as Technology, Mr. 'missioner of navigation. leading drafts-. naval - TAE Marine REVIEW Taylor has been called to Eng- land to testify as an expert in the Olympic-Hawke collision case, Mr. Taylor having made a number of experiments in the tank at Washing- ton to determine the influence of suction. Mr. Lewis Nixon then read his pa- per, on: Lhe .-Panama:.Canal American Commerce," printed where in this issue. Discussion on Mr. Nixon's Paper. The President: Mr. Cox, the sec- else- retary, has received a typewritten dis- - cussion from Mr. Chamberlain, com- It is an old document, and perhaps most of you are familiar with it. Lewis :Nixon: The only point in regard to that is that Mr. Chamberlain attacks the few ideas that I have ad- vanced, the: attack being made on the yery lines on which they are usually attacked, He is a' man who, in his last report, said there was great op- position to giving the American regis- ter to foreign ships, but it would do no harm, because we had no ships in the foreign trade; in other words, that so long as we had through indiffer- ence and neglect and statesmanship killed ship owning, that he burned the widow, ship building, on the funeral pyre with it, and he has gone to great length to establish the fact that there are treaties in the way of preferring our own ships and say- ing to the world that through the Panama canal+our ships will go free just as they would through any other highway. of the United States. He makes the contention there, as I dis- covered by reading his article some- what hurriedly, that we can treat all nations with: equality, and that is twisted to the extent that we must treat all other nations as ourselves. My interpretation of that, and a fair mercantile interpretation, is that we using that canal with any particular favor, compared with other compet- ing nations, or other nations having canals of their own, and as has been stated, it is a very lengthy document, but I consider it is of extreme im- portance, and of course, I shall an- swer. it. in. due course of. time, It will be used, however, no doubt as an answer to the few expressions of my own contained in my paper, and probably to the disadvantage of those particular ideas, before my own paper gets into circulation. But I am rather used to that, if those here do not want it read. Walter M. McFarland: I had the pleasure of reading Mr. Nixon's paper as a member of the publication and'. short-sighted. should treat any other nation 17 committee, and was very much pleased with it, indeed. As I said here last year, I think jt was, or possibly the year before, he has made such a careful study of this whole subject of advancing the interests of the mer- chant marine that I feel anything he says on the subject is worthy of the most careful consideration. Tremendously Live Subject Generally speaking, I should say that I am in agreement with him as to the method that he follows. It might be that some question of de- tail would come up on which we would not agree, but in general I think it is right, and I believe that this is a tremendously live subject for our society. I have said that before and I say it again. There is no organiza- tion in the country that has the same vital interest in an increased merchant marine that we have, and I feel that -- everything we can do to push it along. © ought. to' be done, and 1 teel thee the interest Mr. Nixon shows by giv- ing us his paper is something worthy of a great deal of praise. Discussion by John Reid john, Reid: 1 think,, @cutlemen, that every story has two sides to it, and I don't want you to imagine for a moment that I am going to say anything that will run counter to any ideas or theories Mr. Nixon has about the improvement of the mer- chant marine of the United States. The United States must have a mer- chant marine and have it jolly quick, if it is to take the position in the world that its size and influence en- titled it to, and everything that would help that will be for the advantage of the United States and the world in general, but when you come to talk about abrogating treaties and giving free passage to United States vessels through the canal and abrogating treaties which give some rights to European nations, I am not specify- ing any particular one--we will say Germany or any other foreign na- tion--you run up against this, that the other fellow has something to say about that, and he does not usually do it by coming to you diplomatically and saying "We have a treaty with you that you were to leave the canal 'open," but he says, "I have a lot of ships, and want to use that canal, and I have a lot of goods to buy from you, and will say grain from the west and canned goods and peaches," and everybody knows what a tre- mendous trade that is, but the world is getting smaller every day, and if you put obstacles in the way of people buying the goods where they

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